The Offical B.S Thread!!!!

[1Tuff6.7]

Thunder valley tonight boys!!!!

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

Oh yeah?

[1Tuff6.7]

Oh yeah

[1Tuff6.7]

So apparently tgey make glossifier for plasti dip now. Thinking about doing my bumpers and grille. What do you guys think?

[(S.M.R) 101]

Thinking about making the trade..... Just pull everything off mine and swap on this bad boy :D

http://www.longleybros.com/new/Ram/2012-Ram-2500-fulton-a07c8c4d0a0a00e00051aee0446e2f23.htm

[DoubleTakeDodge]

Nick, I think you should! It'll at least give you an idea on whether or not you want to make it permanent!

And Kyle, that would be so bad ass!

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

Thinking about making the trade..... Just pull everything off mine and swap on this bad boy :D

http://www.longleybros.com/new/Ram/2012-Ram-2500-fulton-a07c8c4d0a0a00e00051aee0446e2f23.htm

Dude, if it is financially possible, I think you ABSOLUTELY should. However, I would not leave one thing on the old truck. Swap the hoods, grills, cab lights, etc etc etc.

[myoung84]

Kyle, that's a trade I will say yes to. But as David said, EVERYTHING must be swapped.

[myoung84]

So apparently tgey make glossifier for plasti dip now. Thinking about doing my bumpers and grille. What do you guys think?

I tried it with some white plastidip and wasn't too impressed. I'd get the bumpers powder coated.

[1Tuff6.7]

There's one hell of a price and a time difference there.....

[myoung84]

I also tried plastidip on my bumpers and I wasn't impressed with the look. It looks good on my grille, but not so much on the bumpers. You can get the front and rear powder coated for about $200. Then try plasti-dip with glossifier on the grille.

[(S.M.R) 101]

I would swap everything over...... I might leave the wheels and tires because I think I found another set that I want.. But other than that everything would be switched over..

I have my dealer contacting that dealer to get some more info and numbers and shit. We will see :D

[0212353]

So......you can hide this from the "wifey" as they are so close? LOL

[(S.M.R) 101]

Believe it or not guys...... I really think I could hide this from her... Until she seen the Cummins badge.... You know I would leave that on the truck :D

My only issue is that "I Know" one of the first things I am going to want to do is rip out that exhaust and DPF but being in NY I would fail inspection if that was removed. (In NY if you go for inspection and they see that the DPF has been removed they will not pass you for inspection and I heard that they have to report the VIN and owner if this is removed)

So that is really killing me..... I could get the truck and then register it in OK again but I would be double taxed if I did this and that would really suck...

Kinda torn guys

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

Dont be a pussy.

[(S.M.R) 101]

Hhaha........... EPA is a bunch of dicks dude.... I'd be getting tickets left and right.

[1Tuff6.7]

Two words kyle.. remove and replace..

[1Tuff6.7]

But if you are going to delete it you better do it fast. I was in a diesel shop here last Friday and they had a mini maxx 1500 dollars. I only gave 950 for mine. Nobody is making DPF delete tuners anymore but you can still find a few floating around and I've heard the last run that H&S did add a bunch of software issues because of them trying to get them out the door as quickly as possible do to EPA pressure. I think it would be a badass truck though dude for sure. You could always stealth delete it just hollow out the Dpf the NO x filter and the cat and run it like that with a muffler and no inspection shop would ever know the difference just put it on the low power setting when you have to do a smog test and that should get you by. If you do decide to do it hit me up man if you have any questions I live and breathe this stuff

[myoung84]

You know Kyle, I would consider waiting for a 2013 with urea injection. I think on a truck that you don't plan on deleting, the urea would be much better than the DPF system. And the interior on the 2013's is pretty sweet.

[1Tuff6.7]

There are pros and cons to urea. From what I've seen in my work truck which is a 6.7 powerstroke and my dads 2012 duramax, the mileage is better (about 17 both are 4wd) however, the money you spend on DEF is nearly equivalent to the extra money you'd spend on fuel in a non def truck.

If it was me, I'd buy one and delete it while you can for two reasons,
1. A deleted truck is more reliable basically because your engine isn't eating its own crap.
2. Because if I can't hear my cummins then I'd just as well drive my suzuki..

[myoung84]

Good points! I wasn't sure on the DEF cost, but I didn't think it was that bad. I know that the 3.0L diesel that will get stuffed into the Jeep GC and Ram 1500, the tank they include is supposed to last 10k miles, but I don't know how big it is. I'm sure the Cummins uses at least 2-4 times that amount...

[0212353]

kyle, just keep your truck.

[myoung84]

Son of a Bitch! I called Jeep to see why my vehicle that was built on the 13th hasn't been shipped yet. She was actually nice and very helpful. Unfortunately, she told me "Congratulations, your Jeep was selected for a vigorous 100% quality inspection." I guess it's a good thing, but means that it won't be here anytime soon. She said it would ship out on the 30th, so hopefully I can have it by the week of the 8th...

[0212353]

see........you sold the bee, bad juju man, bad juju.

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

It definitely sucks that it was delayed, but now you know it will be gone through like EVERY mass produced product should be.

[(S.M.R) 101]

As much as I would like a Cummins, I think I will hold off on buying anything after 08'. I think I will wait to find a nice 5.9 a fuck the shit out of it with performance stuff.

That sucks about the Jeep Morgan. But it sure as hell will be ready to rock when it gets to you lol.

[1Tuff6.7]

As much as I would like a Cummins, I think I will hold off on buying anything after 08'. I think I will wait to find a nice 5.9 a fuck the shit out of it with performance stuff.

That sucks about the Jeep Morgan. But it sure as hell will be ready to rock when it gets to you lol.

Bahahahahhaahhaahahaha!!!!! You better have some reeeeeeal deep pockets. I've been looking for the same thing for years.
If its cheap, its got 400, 000 miles on it. If it doesn't have 400, 000 miles on it, they want $400, 000 for it...

[(S.M.R) 101]

That's the best part about working in Oil & Gas.. All these guys drive Cummins trucks (Most of them) and are always looking to get rid of them for the next better thing..

And I talk with a lot of landowners who have diesel truck and sometimes have no need for them anymore. If I kept my eye out i'm sure I could get one but the Mrs. would kill me if I had 2 trucks.. "Fact" like, really kill me.

[1Tuff6.7]

Always remember young grasshoppa... its easier to ask forgiveness than permission..

If you find one if those gems, send it my way lol

[(S.M.R) 101]

Will do Buddy

[myoung84]

My Jeep has finally shipped and I now have a window sticker! It should be here around the 8th of April. I already have my BT Oil Catch Can ready to be installed!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/32361828/WindowSticker.pdf

[0212353]

Rockin'

Well.........I found my next mod. :D:D

I hired another painter this weekend, and...he does hydrographics. His dipping setup is fucking amazing.......

I'm going to dip the interior parts that are silver in my truck. Still undecided on the chrome trim on the shifter.....might leave that alone.

But, I am not a fan of camo, skulls, fire, etc -the typical stuff that is dipped, but....this one caught my eye, just a simple raindrop. :D

http://www.watertransferprinting.com/mobile_site/galleries/designer_gallery/content/bin/images/large/_1540161113.jpg

Hoping to get those done in the next few weeks and then get pricing up for it! ;)

[myoung84]

That raindrop dip looks pretty cool.

[myoung84]

No, this is what you need. :D

http://www.watertransferprinting.com/pg_all/images/WTP-611_TWN_Stackz.jpg

[0212353]

no, thats ghetto. LOL

I want to get mine done, then run a deal for the first 5 guys on their trucks.

But, wanting the dipper to get used to what we have here, sizes, time, etc. SO many fucking variations on these its CRAZY.

Whats nice, we have silver in the truck. That makes a great base for a LOT. But, if we wanted to go with a different color (like a black carbon fiber, they'd have to be painted first), then there is matte or regular clear, and options for candy....holy nuts.

This is some amazing shit, blows me away....

And, its not just interior stuff that can be done. We can do wheels, grills, door handles, hell - almost anything that can be dipped in water. Headlights might be fun.......as the curvatures for the turn signal area - just depends on how forgiving the film is. I can see us dipping some shrouds, but not the entire bezel (who knows though)

[0212353]

and yes I've seen that crazy $100 bill print....LOL

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/0212353/Hydrographics/B17068BC-1F21-4D11-9E29-1AD8B859E5AA-1452-0000010BA307F50C_zpse08cc8ef.jpg

(samples from the wall there at the dipper's shop)

[Matt]

do you have another pic of that white/black weird one??

[myoung84]

Hmm, depending on price, I might consider dipping the silver parts in my truck. Just don't know what will look good with the two tone dash. I had this same interior in my 2010, and after about 3.5 years with the same interior, it's getting a bit boring to me.

[0212353]

do you have another pic of that white/black weird one??

this one?

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/0212353/Hydrographics/C0A9B65A-9A26-4B96-A7F7-F6E71582B2C9-1452-0000010BA50EB117_zps03714bba.jpg

Hmm, depending on price, I might consider dipping the silver parts in my truck. Just don't know what will look good with the two tone dash. I had this same interior in my 2010, and after about 3.5 years with the same interior, it's getting a bit boring to me.

I hear ya........

pricing is going to be FUN. I'm trying to ensure that he gets what he needs on this, and there is SO much variation on pricing from what I've seen. :wtf:

A deer skull at one place is $45, another $175. :crazy:

Strictly preliminary.....but I'm hoping to keep the 4th gen interior kit under $400, which would include the center console (both parts), the chrome trim ring, and the 2 side vent parts. That would include shipping and stuff too. After he does mine we'll nail it down, and I'll probably do a group buy on the first 5. :Jedi:

[0212353]

and thats not the right pic........whoops.

I don't have that one on here.

check this link, all of my pics are there, and a vid of him doing the reaper pattern on an older chebby dash panel.

http://s48.photobucket.com/user/0212353/library/Hydrographics

[myoung84]

I'll just have the upper center console and two side vents. I'm kind of liking these:

http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i360/myoung84/WTP-340BrushedStainless_zps18e6e743.jpghttp://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i360/myoung84/WTP-270BrushedAluminum_zps41c5b15f.jpg

[0212353]

yeah, that should knock off about $75 of it. (estimated!)

I saw those patterns too, I like those - something simple to set it off. That machined look is pretty sweeeeet

[myoung84]

I might be down for the brushed aluminum...

[0212353]

Cool. Keep an eye on RF in my section, I'll have it up in the next few weeks - and I'll let ya know.

Something spiffy! I went out to find another painter to releave some stress from the main one (we are booked into May!) and found not only a painter, but a dipper too. ;)

[(S.M.R) 101]

Dip the headlights with some crazy MG and PS2 Silver? :D

[0212353]

might be tough on the heads....

lots of deep pockets and such. But, after I get used to how the guy works, I can see how it will roll. :D

Honestly, on a two tone setup, I'd just say stick to paint. Unless you wanted some weird setup with reaper skulls and silver? LOL

[myoung84]

Reaper skulls on the bezels and shrouds would be sweet on your truck Kyle!

[(S.M.R) 101]

Eh, not my style... altough would be pretty sick :D

[DoubleTakeDodge]

This stuff is awesome! A place here in sapulpa does it too, primarily to gun stocks etc.. Is there any chance your guy has a blaze orange camo pattern? I've been looking for a place that does those dips and has a blaze orange camo to have my bow redone

[0212353]

he can pretty much get anything, and there are SO many to list.

Best bet, take a look at watertransferprinting.com - they have a HUGE selection, I know he can get all of those. Or if you find any (elsewhere), shoot it over to me and I can check with him. ;)

[DoubleTakeDodge]

Awesome!! Thanks man! I'll check those out!

[DoubleTakeDodge]

The site you posted has this Moth Wing Gameday Blue
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m614/doubletakedodge/Random/B0FDB4ED-AB46-4144-8C7F-32DFD36B673D-2152-0000026873E46B19_zps4345a8e1.jpg

So surely he can get the Moth Wing Gameday Orange
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m614/doubletakedodge/Random/054AFC84-D81B-4B86-91FC-C531A2D77136-2152-0000026874335DDE_zps61e2f229.jpg

That I found on georgiahydrographics.com ??

[0212353]

I would assume so. I can check with him!

[DoubleTakeDodge]

Thanks! I'd really appreciate it! Also, could you ask him for a rough estimate on dipping a compound bow?

[0212353]

yup. shipping may blow, but - well....it is what it is. :-|

[1Tuff6.7]

Dude.... Next mod= found.

[0212353]

After mine is done (so we have a REALLY good feel for costs involved) I'm going to do up a little group buy. ;)

[Lt.Dan]

This stuff is awesome! A place here in sapulpa does it too, primarily to gun stocks etc.. Is there any chance your guy has a blaze orange camo pattern? I've been looking for a place that does those dips and has a blaze orange camo to have my bow redone

I thought the place in Sapulpa did an acid etching thing? I didn't know it was the hydro dip.

[DoubleTakeDodge]

I thought the place in Sapulpa did an acid etching thing? I didn't know it was the hydro dip.

You're right, I didn't realize there was a difference at first.

[myoung84]

I ordered an exhaust system for the Jeep today. I found a great deal on Amazon, and I had some Amazon gift cards so it only costs me $875 compared to the typical $1300-1400. Now let's hope it fits the 2014!

[(S.M.R) 101]

What kind of system?

[myoung84]

That might be a nice piece of info. It's a Magnaflow.

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

Is your Jeep the newest body style or is it the previous (current) style?

[myoung84]

It's the newer body style for 2014. Same platform, just a refresh and new 8 speed trans.

[myoung84]

Guess I got the last one. Now they are back up to $1300 from a different vendor. Mine came directly from Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004SCQUK0/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[(S.M.R) 101]

Nice score Morgan

[myoung84]

It's moving!!!! I sure hope it's delivered close to the estimated date. The wife and I are leaving for an anniversary trip on the 17th and I really don't want to take the truck...

Current Status: Released from Industry 03/29/2013 12:53 PM EDT On Railcar - Detroit Jefferson Assembly, MI
Estimated delivery: 04/10/2013

[0212353]

good luck! :pepper:

[1Tuff6.7]

Wtf james! You can't wave???

[DoubleTakeDodge]

Sorry man!! I wasn't payin attention at first! Didn't realize it was you til I got right next to you and then I did wave but it was too late for you to see haha. That truck of yours looks freakin mean in person btw!!

[1Tuff6.7]

Thanks man! Yours looks pretty darn good too. I love me a clean single cab

[DoubleTakeDodge]

Thanks man! I like it pretty good. There's a few things I'd like to do to it but it gets the job done for now!

[duffy172]

Holy hell I just spent 6 hours replacing the hub, upper and lower ball joints on the truck. I was hoping to knock out both sides today! Nope.

[DoubleTakeDodge]

Dang man! Sounds like its keepin you busy!

[Matt]

well i'll be leaving in a couple hours to start my vacation going to spend almost 2 weeks on the road going to
football hof
baseball hof
basketball hof
niagra falls
buffalo ny to the place where buffalo wings were started
boston - gonna catch a sox game
nyc - gonna catch a yankee game
phily- mainly just lunch
and washington dc i've always wanted to go up to the north east coast i've done alot of traveling in my life 35 states give or take but i've missed all the ones up north east so hopefully i'll enjoy it

[0212353]

wait wait wait..........

Morgan............

Your kiddo's name is going to be "Carli"? Thats awesome, throwin in the suspension maker on the kid's name! HAHA, I thought I was bad.......my daughter's initials spell RAM.

:boxed:

[myoung84]

LOL. Yep, we're naming her Carli. My grandpa's name was Carl, so that's the main reason, but Carli suspension had a little influence on the spelling. And she's taking my name for a middle name. Carli Morgan Young :D

[DoubleTakeDodge]

That's an awesome name Morgan! And dang Matt! Sounds like a hell of a trip! Have a good time.

[myoung84]

My Jeep finally left OKC at 1:00 today! Went to the dealer at lunch and got pretty much all the paper work done. Once it gets in they will do the PDI, clean it and gas it up and it's mine! What I don't know (and neither does the dealer) is where on the car hauler my Jeep is located. I sure hope it's not on the front and they have several other stops to make first.... Either way, I'm very excited!

And we have a 4D ultrasound today and I'll get to see Carli's little face! Can't wait for that!

[ramthis9501]

Awesome man! Can't wait to see the Jeep!

[0212353]

I saw it. its tits. :D

[myoung84]

I saw it. its tits. :D

Yes, it is tits. :D

This thing is absolutely awesome! The Hemi and 8 speed are a great combination and moves pretty good. It's not as fast as my SRT Charger that it replaced, but I have no complaints. Interior is top notch and the copper trim is not nearly as bad in person as they are in pics. I actually like the look better than silver. I got the UConnect registered online but haven't played with it too much. The shifter is a little weird, but I got used to it very quick and actually kind of like it. It only had 15 miles on it when I got to the dealer. I figured it would have much more than that since I was selected for the vigorous quality audit. Had about 50 miles on it after driving around last night.

Only quirk I had was with the Quadra-Lift. I was playing with it in my driveway and lifted it to ORII and it wouldn't come back down. I ended up having to drive around the block for it to lower. I'll play with it some more and see if it happens again. In all honesty, ORI and II will never get used, so it's not a big deal. The park mode and aero mode seemed to work fine.

My Oil Catch can goes on tonight and the Magnaflow exhaust will go on very soon. Here are some crappy cell phone pics. I'll post more soon.

The dealer texted me as soon as the truck got there. I was only a couple miles away so I stopped by and snapped a pic.

http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i360/myoung84/901893_10200355148615595_1609898133_o_zpsf6ca718a. jpg
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i360/myoung84/2013041195191138_zpsc5f7c601.jpg

This is in Off Road II height.

http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i360/myoung84/2013041195190723_zps0cdbda44.jpg
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i360/myoung84/2013041195190806_zps4de89007.jpg
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i360/myoung84/2013041195191106_zps1acaff11.jpg


http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i360/myoung84/2013041195183304_zps98fce4bf.jpg
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i360/myoung84/2013041195183244_zpsfd2ddaa1.jpg
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i360/myoung84/2013041195183238_zpsa0b3ac43.jpg

[0212353]

yeah, thats awesome...........

on a side note, I'm driving a jeep today. LOL

Its a hunk o shit. '12 Patriot. WTF Jeep, stick your name on this thing?

No power........and the cabin just doesn't devour headlights. :D:D

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/0212353/78E7C14B-5ED1-448B-9C28-EAD2A0F7408F-5938-000004030EBC1F03_zps547d1655.jpg (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/0212353/media/78E7C14B-5ED1-448B-9C28-EAD2A0F7408F-5938-000004030EBC1F03_zps547d1655.jpg.html)

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/0212353/A7E977CE-FC70-46BF-8834-24515246F19E-5938-0000040311BECE7B_zps6b2c091a.jpg (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/0212353/media/A7E977CE-FC70-46BF-8834-24515246F19E-5938-0000040311BECE7B_zps6b2c091a.jpg.html)

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/0212353/F703D5A9-5E12-49B4-8F02-46D3B5D4DF15-5938-0000040315DA730C_zpsc23fe8cc.jpg (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/0212353/media/F703D5A9-5E12-49B4-8F02-46D3B5D4DF15-5938-0000040315DA730C_zpsc23fe8cc.jpg.html)

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/0212353/529AD758-07B5-4362-9C8E-B43F9C90E58F-5938-000004031E698EFA_zpsff72f236.jpg (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/0212353/media/529AD758-07B5-4362-9C8E-B43F9C90E58F-5938-000004031E698EFA_zpsff72f236.jpg.html)

[myoung84]

That thing is horrible. It is a little disappointing at what Jeep sticks their name on.

[0212353]

I told them I needed a rental. Guy told me yesterday "all we have are minivans, some guys hate that".

I love my minivan. This thing is a fucking joke to anything on 4 wheels.

[myoung84]

What's up with your truck?

[0212353]

just some shit needs to get cared for before my 3/36 runs out (in 4 days).

LOL

got a clunk in the back. sunroof rattles, seat rattles (from my fatass)

so, off it went.

[DoubleTakeDodge]

Sweet rig Morgan! That Jeep looks great!

[ramthis9501]

Nice! Congrats on the new ride!

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

That Jeep is phenomenal.

[myoung84]

Thanks guys! I got the oil catch can and magnaflow exhaust installed earlier. It sounds pretty sweet, but very mellow.

[0212353]

well thats no fun.

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

I think that's what would be best on that truck. You don't want something as high-end as that too loud, just enough grunt to get a little attention.

[0212353]

You don't want something as high-end as that too loud, just enough grunt to get a little attention.

is it bad that this kinda describes a perfect girlfriend? :smokin:

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

Epic.

[myoung84]

Lol. You guys kill me sometimes.

And yes David, I think the sound is perfect. I didn't want it too loud, just something a couple of ticks above stock so you know it's a Hemi.

[myoung84]

And the tips look a whole lot better than the dinky stock tips.

[Matt]

That looks awesome man

[0212353]

And the tips look a whole lot better than the dinky stock tips.

are we still talking about the perfect girlfriend again? :signs8:

[myoung84]

are we still talking about the perfect girlfriend again? :signs8:

Lol. Maybe. A good pair of tips are always nice! ;)

[Matt]

well just got back to oklahoma last night i've got a ton of laundry and unpacking to do and about 5-6000 pics to go through lol added so much more to the trip it was crazy .. i got to see the space shuttle discovery, a sr-71 which i've always had a boner for, and even the enola gay .. i'll upload some pics later


i left boston just a couple hours before the attacks even seen the runners that morning .. was very crazy

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

Damn man, I forgot you were up there when that happened!

[myoung84]

Dammit Colton, you have me looking at Dakotas now. I would love to buy something like this and drop in a Hemi...

http://tulsa.craigslist.org/ctd/3752919582.html

[DoubleTakeDodge]

That would be a pretty cool project! The Dakotas have pretty nice body styling of a larger truck, they just aren't real comfortable to drive when you're 6'3"+

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

That's what I was thinking for a square body S-10 (LS1 though) or that old Ram I found around the corner.

[0212353]

das clusterfuck...........

Truck is getting subs installed. I dont' have time for it.....

long story short.....

My less than one year old amp is "toast". weird, was ok this morning. Now, I have a bunch of weird noises........I'm going to go pick the truck up. I hope the fucker pounds, thats all I'm saying. LOL

[0212353]

about the only thing that went right today.........my newest computer arrived. she's pretty. and she'll sit on this workbench for most of her life. LOL

[Matt]

what weird noises do you have? did you replace the amp with a 4 channel or something?

[0212353]

I will take a vid later.

Went from 1000.5 to a 1200.1 and they tossed in a 4ch amp to tide me over - its all fucked up. And pissing me off.

[Matt]

tell me more when you get time ...

[DoubleTakeDodge]

Nick, did I just see your truck out here at calf fry??

[1Tuff6.7]

Yep!

[0212353]

tell me more when you get time ...

a vid says more than I can.........

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/0212353/th_0D3E8643-01E0-4FC6-90B9-646B484BECF4-1360-0000018FA23C0C99_zps33fd3584.jpg (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/0212353/0D3E8643-01E0-4FC6-90B9-646B484BECF4-1360-0000018FA23C0C99_zps33fd3584.mp4)

:Frustrated:

[(S.M.R) 101]

Simple enough.. Your flux capacitor tripped the main apex tact-tron which caused your atrium sublet inadvertent return to clash with the ambit energy which is causing the squeal..

I think a little exhaust bearing fluid will do the trick :D

[0212353]

no, simple enough........

I took it somewhere, now my 5 channel amp is toast and my "little" bit of alternator whine is now what you hear there. I can't even drive it, it makes me bonkers........

So, here's what they were supposed to do:

Remove 10" box with CVX sub
Install FoxBox with 2 10" CVXs
Install 1200.1 amp
Run new 4 gauge for the new amp.
Possibly install new RCAs (that I've had for a long time......and never got to)

What they did:
Fried my 1000.5
Gave me a loaner amp while I get my 1000.5 cared for
Gave me ghosts in the speakers.

[(S.M.R) 101]

That sucks dude

[0212353]

Can this happen if they crossed a wire? Like a signal wire ground is in the positive?

[myoung84]

That shouldn't happen, but anything is possible. It's really hard to fry an amp since everything should be fused. Not sure what they did.

[0212353]

I don't know....

Well, I know this - I'm going to send the 1000.5 to Tracy, I'm sure he'll have a pretty good idea what happened to it.

If I get some time, I'm going to take a look at each door - see what one is making the noise. I think its the driver's front......eh.

[Matt]

Can this happen if they crossed a wire? Like a signal wire ground is in the positive?

when you start adding multiple amps and running rca's and power wire all over the place you can pick up sound pretty easy did you use those dual twist rca's i gave you? hard to hear exactly whats going on in the video but just from hearing you turn it up doesn't sound like the subs get loud at all? if that's the case it really sounds like one might be backwards polarity this is why i don't let any audio shops touch my stuff nobody seems to care about their workmanship anymore especially if they didn't make the money off the product

1) kicker amps tend to pick up sound easier than other amps on the market for some reason - don't really know why but i've installed them for over 5 years and had more issues with them than any other amps combined
2) check polarity on subs - you can look at the subs or feel them and when the bass hits make sure they are going the same way if they are both going out or in at the same time you're good - if you have a ton of output then don't worry about this step
3) check your grounds - they don't seem like they care enough to do a good job the first time so having them fix their mistakes is probably asking too much plus you'll know exactly what was done a proper ground uses atleast the same size wire as your power with as short of a run as possible, scratch the paint until you get bare metal and shoot 2-3 self tapping screws into the terminal i normally do 1 in the eye of the terminal and then 2 into the body of the lug that way it can't move at all and creates a really good ground

try the amps first and if you still have sound you can try several things
try isolating the power and signal (rca) wires farther apart and only cross them at 90 degree angles
don't attach the amps directly to metal - if you can't help that use thick rubber washers or a piece of wood under the mounting legs
try grounding your deck to a proper ground ( not in the harness - to a good bare metal ground)
also try grounding the case of the radio to the same ground
if this doesn't work you can try grounding the outside part of the rca ends - but you have good rcas so i would do this last



you dont' have to do everything just do one at a time until you fix the sound .. the fact that you had a sound already in the system and then added a second amp and it got worse doesn't surprise me at all .. that's to be expected there was an issue from the beginning and you added to it .. but should be able to fix it with those steps

[0212353]

I appreciate the info!

The RCAs are actually kicker RCAs too. I lost yours somewhere.... shit is all over the place here in the shop.

Bottom line, these guys are going to fix it. If I wanted to deal with the fun, I would have saved the money and did it myself. But, at the end of the day, I paid them.

I had a little bit of alternator whine when it started. This shit its doing now......is pathetic.

And, I think right now, I'm running on a Kenwood 4channel loaner amp. And the 1200.1 for the subs.

They are getting loud, not sure if its as loud as I expected (more than doubling my wattage and replacing 1 sub to 2).

ARGH..

But, when I get the new amp in, they are handling this. I simply don't have the time to dick with it. What I paid them yesterday to install the stuff I offset by selling 3 sets of 2013 Ram headlights. Drop ship them, move on. :D:D

[0212353]

oh.......this only happens when the truck is running. when the truck is off, sounds great. :D

[0212353]

dropped the truck off again.

Got a good laugh.......I gave them the wrong keys, so when they went to pull it in.......the alarm went off.

So I get a call and I hear this thing going nuts in the back. LOL

"hey man, I gotta get you to come up here and turn this thing off".

Fire up the Viper app, shut it off.

"done"

lol

[(S.M.R) 101]

Damn.... I need me one of them bitches for my truck

[0212353]

I love it. Don't use it as much as I should.....but its spiffy.

[0212353]

its finally fixed.

In the end..........the head unit was fucked up. But now, holy fucking a. Pound city

[Matt]

got a video of this yet? how is your voltage liking the 2 amps?

[0212353]

no vids........

Its weird........if its WAY up loud on some rap or some shit, when it hits, the 4ch cuts off for about 10 seconds. I said something to the guy there (as it did it when we were finishing the install) - I don't remember his BS response. I'm going to turn the gain down a hair on the 4ch when I get a moment.

[myoung84]

All I can say about this one is Wow... People are just plain stupid these days. I didn't read the whole thread, just the first post and some skimming after that.

http://www.jeepgarage.org/f97/12-and-13-owners-class-action-suit-against-jeep-59254.html

[DoubleTakeDodge]

That is ridiculous. People will sue for damn near anything now days.

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

Damnit I'm worn out. The entire last week was dedicated to Defensive Tactics at school. Last night I re-tiled the landing at our front entrance and today my wife and I grouted the entire backsplash in the kitchen (it was tiled over a month ago) and then grouted the entrance tile.

[(S.M.R) 101]

Hell of a month for you dude lol.

Me and Emily think we found a house to buy yesterday.... it has a 1800sq ft shop that he built just a year ago....... That would be one hell of a work shop for me :D

[0212353]

you

suck.

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

No shit. I want a shop SO bad.

[Matt]

i need a tire for the warrior and i'm really playing with the idea of running a 240/250 .. just can't decide if i want to do it ... thoughts?

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

Definitely go for it. Any other modifications necessary? The bike I'm most likely picking up this time next year runs a 250 from the factory and I think it looks killer.

[Matt]

ya i have to have the swing arm notched and widened and i have to have the rear wheel widened ... on the forums theres a company that does that for about 1100 so i'm not sure what direction im going to go with yet but i'll make the decision soon bc i wanna ride lol rode home in the rain the other night and then checked my tire the next day and i had cords showing .. no bueno

[deadhead_94p]

I will be in Norman tonight for the Chive meet up and Moore tmrw to help clean up. So if you see me riding around around make sure you honk or throw a hand up. If you're interested, club seven47 staring at 6:30 pm.

[0212353]

you know........sometimes...........I wish I had more "time off". My next mod, $495......and install is more.

Fucking torque converter. LOL

Wish I had the balls (and moreso time) to install it myself.

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

What speed and from where?

[0212353]

Edge, from Moes (who da faq else?!?!)

2800, "set up tight" word.

[myoung84]

That's gonna be effing sweet!

[0212353]

been talking about doing it for a while. Matt needed to buy HIDs........ummmmm, so well, we made a deal. LOL

Cheapest install cost so far? "4-450"

ouch.

[0212353]

and the worst part? Calling for install quotes. mofos must think I have 12 heads and 4.2 arms! "why are you doing this?"

the last guy..........I replied "are you that busy that you are throwing away a job dipshit?"

[myoung84]

Some people are just plain stupid.

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

They asked you why you are installing a torque converter?

[DoubleTakeDodge]

So many people think that torque converter mods are only for diesel trucks. Surprised to hear that a shop employee asked you why you were doing the mid though lol

[0212353]

I had a LOT of the shops ask me why I was doing it. Quit asking questions and quote it asshole. LOL

But yeah, one went into detail about why he thought it was dumb, and I said "well, your price reflects it." CLICK.

[myoung84]

I had the same responses when I was trying to get quotes for my 4.56 gear swap on my 04. So, is this a drag truck or rock crawler? No dumb ass, it's just a truck that I want 4.56s in...

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

What ever happened to "the customer is always right?" I know they aren't, hell, most of the time they are wrong. But there is money to be made here and they want to tell you how much of a mistake it is.

[0212353]

like putting a Y pipe in......

Yes, I researched it, but.....f u.

[0212353]

and scheduled.

TC arrives Monday.

Truck gets dropped off Monday night.

I go on vacation Tuesday - Thursday. While I'm playing around at the Great Wolf Lodge with the kiddos in Kansas City, the truck will be at a local tranny shop enjoying her stay. ;)

$450 all in for the labor. Not horrible for a 4WD.......

Can't wait to get back from vacation and take the bitch for a spin. :D

Let the fun begin. ;)

[myoung84]

That sound pretty fair for the amount of work involved. At least you have something to look forward to when you get home from vacation!

[0212353]

yeah, its not bad. Granted......I wish it was cheaper.

BUT, I literally have quotes here ranging from $400 all the way up to $700.

All of the places go by the book time, but there are SO many options on it.
- Skidplate?
- Dual exhaust (makes no sense, the f'n exhaust is the same up to the muffler, and I know you don't have to take anything off after the muffler).

So, the guy I felt the most comfortable with got the job. I talked him down a bit too.....that always helps. In the end, the hours are 4.1 to remove / reinstall tranny. 1.2 extra for 4wd. .2 to swap the converter. .4 for the exhaust. So......5.9 hours. The shop's hourly rate is $100 an hour. I told him he wasn't the cheapest, but he was close and I'd rather do the job close, never know what I'll need done next. He asked me what quote I got that was better. Told him "this asshat in St Charles (town over) quoted me $450". He matched it. ;)

The $400 quote I got was from the guy that questioned EVERYTHING, and I wasn't going to have him do shit to the truck.

[myoung84]

Yep, for work like this, it's worth the extra money to know that it's done right.

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

Does anyone know someone with 2010+ stock 20s with decent tires and a little cash who would want my 22s w/ tires?

[0212353]

Does anyone know someone with 2010+ stock 20s with decent tires and a little cash who would want my 22s w/ tires?

couple months too late man..

I would have let you borrow mine for a while. I finally sold them a few months back. Didn't get dick for them.

[916Timmy]

There is a guy on GPMM selling stock 2013 sport wheels only for 850...pretty high for just wheels

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

Yeah, I'm not looking to outright purchase them. I want a 22s for 20s+cash.

[1Tuff6.7]

Why you getting rid of the 22s dave?

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

New 22s.

[deadhead_94p]

Won my first of hopefully many 1st place trophies this past weekend, along with a 2012 Matt Kenseth Daytona tire. Competed in my first show down here in Lawton.

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

Congrats dude! Truck looks killer.

[deadhead_94p]

Thanks. It's slowly getting there.

[DoubleTakeDodge]

Very nice! Truck's looking good man! Do you plan to attend the Midwest Mopar Meet later this month?

[deadhead_94p]

I'm registered for it. If I have my kids I don't think I'll be able to.

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

Hell dude, bring the kiddos. How old are they?

[DoubleTakeDodge]

Yeah, if they're old enough to hang around the show for awhile you should bring them too! The best time I had with my dad while I was growing up was going to car shows all over the Midwest.

[(S.M.R) 101]

I'll have my nephew with me.. and maybe the newborn nephew for a little while :D

Truck looks great BTW

[0212353]

my truck hits the spa tonight ..... for a few days or relaxing and someone asshat ripping a tranny out of her. lol

[myoung84]

:chewie:

[0212353]

going to be a long few days away from home........wanting to get back to drive my bitch! LOL

[918Dodge]

Hi :driver:

[0212353]

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/0212353/20130716_215616_zpsf0c68926.jpg~original

went out and watched some tire testing last night from some NASCAR fellas! We were sitting in our hotel room, heard the cars, and said........lets go watch! Went to the casino next door, and started watching! Great seats. LOL

[0212353]

and the view of the track from our room.. ;)

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/0212353/20130716_153637_RichtoneHDR_zps269f66c0.jpg~origin al

[deadhead_94p]

That's awesome. Been to Talladega a couple of times, but that's it so far. Planning on putting on my headers this weekend. Hopefully everything goes smooth. Pics to follow.

[DoubleTakeDodge]

Sweet! Keep us updated!

[myoung84]

Sleeping in a hospital sucks.

[(S.M.R) 101]

No baby yet??

[0212353]

just saw some pics up on FB! Congrats duder!!

[myoung84]

Thanks Jeremy! She was born at 11:17 this morning, 7lbs 8oz, 21" long. Named her Carli Morgan, no relation to Carli Suspension, lol.

[0212353]

liar..

I love seeing that someone else is crazy enough to get a spiffy name by the wife!

(my kid's initials spell RAM). :D

[(S.M.R) 101]

Congrats Morgan! Exciting stuff man

[myoung84]

Thanks again guys! She was mostly named after my grandpa Carl but the other Carli had a little influence on the spelling, we just like how it looked. I will tell you that the name "coincidence" certainly made it a lot easier for my wife to approve on over $3k in Carli parts. Lol

[Randall488]

Congrats man! good name btw, the wife has good taste in performance suspension!

[0212353]

verter is in!

I haven't dropped the hammer from a full dead stop yet..........I want to do that where I'm not around a bunch of people.......or cops.

On the highway, getting on it, she shifts a LOT better, quicker, and the RPMs don't drop nearly as much. (hell, on the regular shifting not on the highway either).

I used to have a weird 1-2 shift that you could literally feel the truck almost "stop" and go. Not anymore.

but, one thing I have to get figured out.......and its something that I needed to look into for a while now.....around 35-40mph the truck seems to be searching for a gear. My 3.92s didn't do this.......3.55s, yeah. I'm kinda torn. At 35MPH, in 3rd, I'm around 2200RPM. Thats a bit high for piddling around town.....in 4th I'm around 1400-1600ish.

Hard call, something I'll need to play with there.

[ramthis9501]

Congrats Morgan!

And Jeremy... Get some 4.10's!

[0212353]

gear swap on my truck would be almost 2K......not seeing that happening anytime soon.

[myoung84]

Great news on the TC! I really want a new one.

You're running a hemifever tune aren't you? Can he not tune out that trans issue? I know you could with SC...

[0212353]

I'm going to ask him about it. I am sure he can......

The TC is pretty sweet, but I'm second guessing the costs (mainly install, etc). Don't get me wrong, its nice - but......at the end of the day it was a grand out of pocket for it. And, I am pretty sure I have an exhaust leak now, so I have to go back and have them fix that...

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

That's why I prefer home installs. Installing one of those isn't too hard and you save a fortune. However, I know you are strapped for time more than anything.

[0212353]

yeah.....but at the end of the day, I look at how long it would have taken me. book time on it was almost 6 hours. So, that equates to JJ time of 10-12. If I have an "extra" 10-12, I'm going to be in my shop easily making more than the cost of the 'verter install.

I kinda wish I had the time to do it, learn it, etc - but.....it would have probably just sat here like other mods I have in my mind (MY own freakin' headlights.....awesome to run around on stockers! LOL)

[myoung84]

Anyone else without power? I lost power around midnight and have had my little gasoline generator running since 5 am. I'm sure my neighbors love me... :D

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

I'm sure that is a LOT of fun with a newborn.

[myoung84]

You know it. News days it could be days before everyone is back online. I sure hope they get us up quickly. I'm already sick of hearing the generator running. I really should have a natural gas permanent generator installed, I do sell them for a living.

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

Wow, at least you have the generator.

[0212353]

You know it. News days it could be days before everyone is back online. I sure hope they get us up quickly. I'm already sick of hearing the generator running. I really should have a natural gas permanent generator installed, I do sell them for a living.

I was about to give you some shit about that. LOL

I would love one at my house, but I'll wait until we get the next place!

[(S.M.R) 101]

I get all the free natural gas I want lol. Perks of producing it for a living

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

Sarah and I have already decided the next house will get a built in natural gas generator and a storm shelter in the garage floor.

[myoung84]

Same here. I can buy the generator at cost which makes it a little easier. Since we probably won't be in this house too much longer I didn't think it was great idea since it might be hard to get the money back out of it. Next house will definitely have one.

We're up now though. Ran about 8 hours on generator back feeding through a "welder plug" I installed under my breaker box. Works like a charm. ;)

[myoung84]

Anyone that's interested in a generator let me know and I'll shoot you over a quote. We keep most of the residential stuff in stock at our Little Rock corporate office and will soon start stocking Tulsa as well as OKC when that office is built. You'd then need an electrical contractor to install it for you and one of our techs will come start it up.

[0212353]

have to be your tech? ;)

Thinking ahead to the next house here man...........been stashing some cash aside! ;)

[1Tuff6.7]

Im getting color matched bumpers!!!!!!!!

[myoung84]

That's going to look sweet!

[DoubleTakeDodge]

Awesome! When?

[1Tuff6.7]

This weekend or next. Trading a guy who's tricking out his Laramie limited with full replacments!!

[DoubleTakeDodge]

Sweet! that'll make a big difference!

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

I feel like cutting something today...anyone else? (and no, I'm not having a bad day)

[0212353]

me too.....

or just smashing a few things. that would be fun.

[DoubleTakeDodge]

I was just thinking that today would be a good day to get out and do a little shooting lol

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

This is truck related...

[(S.M.R) 101]

Cut them Coils!!

[DoubleTakeDodge]

This is truck related...

Ah! I missed the connection lol. How much lower are you going?


And Kyle, you make it back up there to Yankeeville alright?? :D

[0212353]

haha, I missed that one too. d'oh.

[(S.M.R) 101]

Yeah made it back last night to PA, Up and working today.. It's going to take a week to catch up on sleep though lol.... My ass is dragging today

[myoung84]

Cut em David!

[ramthis9501]

Do it! Should have let Kyle get in on the action while he was down here since you know... He likes to cut things..

[myoung84]

Just thought I'd share my experience with Viair's warranty. I have two 400C compressors mounted to the outside of the frame rail on L brackets. Before I installed, I called Viair to double check that it was ok to mount under the truck and they said yes, it's a sealed unit and as long as the vent tube is routed to a dry location, it's fine. They won't be harmed if they get wet, just don't submerge them. Well, a while back I flipped them on and shortly after I heard a pop and one compressor went down. I called Viair and they gave me an RGA number and said send it back and they'll take care of me.

Earlier this week I finally get a call from them and they tore it down and it was full of water with a burned up motor and broken connecting rod. They said the fitting for the check valve had scratches on it and that they would not replace or repair it under warranty. I had a serious problem with this answer. How the hell are you supposed to tighten the fittings with a wrench and not scratch the cheap chrome plating? I escalated my call and finally talked with someone higher up that initially gave me the same answer. Then they started pointing to the fact that they were installed under the truck and that had to be why they got water in them. I had to remind them that I called and asked this very question and was given the green light. Yes, they have been splashed with water which I was told was acceptable, but they have never been submerged.

After standing my ground and reasoning with the guy, he finally agreed that he personally felt this was on them and should be fixed under warranty but would need to have some more people take a look first. They eventually called back and said they would be repairing and replacing parts at no cost to me. Turns out it was most likely a faulty check valve that allowed moisture to build up inside the unit and ultimately caused the problem. Apparently if you tighten the check valve fitting to the air line fitting with real tools and scratch the chrome plating, this renders the check valve useless. :crazy: Sounds to me like they need to upgrade to a higher quality check valve.

They still weren't 100% sure that this was the cause, but whatever. Since the other compressor is fine and moisture free, I have a hard time believing it was my installation. The air inlets are at the middle of the tank so it's not like the lines are at the bottom of the tank collecting all the water in the tank. I also periodically drain the tank and cycle the compressors to keep out all the moisture I can and I always get a very minimal amount of water vapor from the drain, never any pooling water.

At the end of the day I still won, but I don't feel I should have had to fight that hard. Anyways, just thought I would share my negative experience with Viair.

[0212353]

I also periodically drain the tank and cycle the compressors to keep out all the moisture I can and I always get a very minimal amount of water vapor from the drain, never any pooling water.

most wouldn't even do that!

assholios...

[DoubleTakeDodge]

Dang, sorry o hear it was such a hassle. Good to know that after a little prodding they honored their product.

[DoubleTakeDodge]

Anyone else notice that we had 1794 people on the site simultaneously just a few nights ago?? I wonder what prompted so many people to check us out all at once??

[myoung84]

Guess who just ordered a Diablo In-tune programmer with Hemi Fever's custom tuning?

I'll have a Bully Dog up for sale soon...

[(S.M.R) 101]

Nice dude. I thought about getting one but I'm pretty happy with the BD

[myoung84]

I am too, but I'd like to see what I can do with a custom tune. I figure I could sell the BD and the pod for at least $350 so the Diablo doesn't cost me too much.

[0212353]

sweet man!

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

That's my plan if this Archos 43 tablet doesn't fix my Superchips interface issues.

[myoung84]

I was very bad today...

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

What did you buy now?

[0212353]

dude, freakin' spill it.

35s? new wheels?

[myoung84]

Yes and yes! :D

Toyo AT II 35s and 17" Method Double Standards. And my wife's not even mad!

[0212353]

sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

[myoung84]

So, any of you fellow 8 luggers want some 18" XD Addicts with 33" Toyo AT II tires? I have five wheels and tires. Four tires have about 10k miles on them and the 5th has never seen pavement. The spare wheel is a bit scratched from a getting stuck in the sand incident. Lug nuts and 2010+ TPMS sensors included.

[(S.M.R) 101]

Awesome Morgan!

Can't wait to see the new setup man.... I'm working on some new plans right now as well :D

[0212353]

I thought you were done kyle? lol

[myoung84]

Kyle done? Lol.

So I spilled mine, now it's your turn...

[(S.M.R) 101]

It's nothing big. Might be what some would consider downgrading but we'll see

what are you looking for price on the set you have now Morgan?

[myoung84]

I was probably going to toss them on craigslist for $2200 and go from there. To get all 5 new with shipping, mounting and balancing, and the TPMS sensors you're looking at about $2400. They have about 10k miles on them so I think maybe around $1800 is fair. You interested in them?

[myoung84]

Here's a couple of the the chops of the wheels. Tires are MT's and I ordered AT's.

http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i360/myoung84/DoubleStandard_zps1a54a1bf.jpghttp://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i360/myoung84/DoubleStandard2_zpsab46ae4d.jpg

[myoung84]

The damn Toyo's are on national back order and they don't anticipate having them in stock for another two months at least. I may end up going with the Cooper STT MT's if they will price match them....

[myoung84]

Decided to go with the Coopers...

[(S.M.R) 101]

Damn dude.... didn't go with the ST/Maxx?

[0212353]

2 month backorder..............wow, they are either doing something right (great tire), or something horribly wrong (lack of production!) lol

[myoung84]

Damn dude.... didn't go with the ST/Maxx?
I like the ST/Maxx but they don't make it in a 35. Sucks because that would be a great alternative to the Toyo.

2 month backorder..............wow, they are either doing something right (great tire), or something horribly wrong (lack of production!) lol

I think they are doing it right, but our fearless leader is jacking shit up again. This was posted over on the Power Wagon Registry. Not sure his source but it seems like something NObama would do. The Toyo MT is just as hard to get.

Toyo got in a legal battle with Yokahomo tires over a shared USA facility for making tires and lost their right to make the tires in the USA.

TOYO’s were being made in Japan.

Now the new OBAMA tariff is on Tires made in China. At a rate of 37%.

So most of the tire companies that were setup in China selling tires to USA..think they will move the plants to USA now? .. No way.. They are ALL moving their plants to Korea where this 37% OBAMA tariff does not effect them.

So while all this relocation is going on.. Very few tires are currently available in ANY brands.

[0212353]

true or not, it doesn't surprise me.........

[Matt]

i would've looked at the pro comp xtreme mts as well .. i absolutely loved mine and would still be running them if i could

[(S.M.R) 101]

I think I am going with the pro comp xtream a/t's for my next set.

[Matt]

nice... i really like the bmfs on your truck .. i want to change wheels when i go to 38s and i still have no clue where i want to go ...

[(S.M.R) 101]

I'm actually really liking the fuel mavericks... them bitches are bad ass. I would love to do a 22" wheel with a 33" pro comp at's.. but $608 per wheel without tires lol.... that's like 4 grand in wheels and tires. But it would look good.

[0212353]

dude, fuck 4Gs in wheels / tires......

[myoung84]

Damn! That's a lot of cash for wheels. I like my $200 17s. You taking the lift spacers off?