swirvin 21's build thread

[swirvin21]

Ran into Shannon on a deal for an axle I had to sell and he told me about this site. I'm on a number of other Dodge Ram and offroad sites: Dodge Offroad, Pavement Sucks, Pirate, Infamous4x4 and Tulsa Offroad to name a few. I'm even a mod on a few of them.

I own 2 1998 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 extended cab trucks, 1 white and 1 black, 1 V10 and 1 V8. The black Ram I've owned since 2004 just after I joined the Marines and I have done a TON of stuff to it. The white Ram I've only had for a little more than a year and I've nearly got it all put together. I have done a ton to both and have a very good understanding on all the 2nd gen Rams.

Right now I have a ton of extra parts I need to let go to help pay some medical bills, so I'll be tossing them up in the classifieds. Here's a few pics of my truck as it sits now and I'll post up a list of mods to both here soon:

http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu275/swirvin211/Camaro%20SS/Ram/IMG_3205.jpg
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[Lt.Dan]

Welcome to the site man! Bumper on the black one looks sick!

[myoung84]

Welcome to the site! I recently joined TOR and you posted on my welcome thread. ;)

Where are those first 2 pics taken at?

[swirvin21]

Brief specs.

-Black Ram:
V8 360 w/ open air cleaner mod, Hughes plenum plate, 180* thermostat, aluminum radiator, Magnaflow exhaust, 46RE w/ shift kit & 241DHD transfer case, Dana 60's front & rear, dual ARB lockers w/ 35 spline alloy shafts, 1 pc CAD delete, EMS hub conversion kit front, 35 spline outer alloys, ARB diff covers, 35 spline rear Moser shafts, 4.88 gears, 3" Skyjacker suspension system, rear lift leafs to delete blocks, DT Profab .5" extended control arms, DT Profab steering support, Borgeson shaft, 2" body lift, Road Armor bumpers front and rear, Line-X liner on rockers and in bed, 37" Goodyear MTRs on 16.5" alloys

Currently working on installing long arms in the front, rear shackle flip, extended brake lines, hi-steer knuckles and some sheetmetal work to increase approach and departure angles.

-White Ram:
V10 w/ K&N FIPK, stainless headers, Magnaflow cats w/ Flowmaster muffler, nerf bars, DT Profab adjustable trackbar, steering column lower spring fix, 47RE w/ shift kit, 241DLD, 3rd gen 17" alloy wheels w/ 265/70R17 Michelin "E" rated tires

Currently working on installing Borgeson delphi steering box & shaft, Fastman 52mm throttle body, transmission cooler & aux filter, bumpers and interior upgrades. Going to be transferring a number of parts from the Black Dodge as I go.

[swirvin21]

Those were at Disney near Little Blue. It's the cave just south of the Z canyon.

Thanks for the props. I know the owner of Road Armor, good guy, and I've enjoyed the bumpers. Been considering getting another set for the White Ram or transferring these and building myself something for the Black one. I can probably set up a Group Buy on Road Armor if enough people are interested.

Check out my classified ad if you get a chance. I need to be able to pay for a back operation here soon and some of my toys have to go as a result. Feel free to ask any questions, I've done everything but the gear swap myself on these trucks!

Here's my build thread over at TOR. It's another local forum more tuned to offroaders. I'm one of just a few Mopar guys as MYoung84 will attest. Hope it not a problem posting a link to another forum, it is local if that helps...this is the entire build on the White Ram:
http://www.tulsaoffroad.com/forums/showthread.php?4051-New-Dodge-Addition-to-Family!

[(S.M.R) 101]

Welcome to the site bud... Glad you joined

[ramthis9501]

Welcome to ORC! Both very nice trucks!

[DoubleTakeDodge]

Welcome to the ORC!

[Lt.Dan]

I knew I recognized where that was

[rvarela]

welcome!

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

Welcome dude! Nice rigs!

[swirvin21]

Thanks guys! Looking forward to talking to locals for once. Seems like everyone on my other forums is at least 500 miles away.

[LowRam]

welcome nice trucks

[abn1985]

Welcome!!

[fast_Orange]

welcome!

[swirvin21]

Played with my H1 12 bolts over the weekend! I really like the Blacked out look w/ the clean bolts. I want to find some deep lug nut that will fit over the extended bolts to keep that clean look and protect the threads.

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Backspacing is too deep for now, stock is around 7" on H1s. I really like the stock look and don't want to pay to recenter as it is expensive and the rims will never balance. I have a pair of 2" spacers that would make them doable in the front, but it would hit my control arms at full turn. Going to wait to install after I do a DRW conversion in the front and then use the spacers in the rear.

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[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

Wow, that thing looks battle-ready. Are they heavy?

[swirvin21]

As they are right now they are about 60lbs each for a 2 piece steel 12 bolt H1 double beadlock rim. Without inner beadlocks. Once I add PVC inners it will be closer to 65lbs. Not a big deal since this will be losing DD status here soon hopefully. A heavier rim will also help keep traction better that light wheels and steel rims are easier to repair if damaged and less likely to be damaged than an aluminum one. I'll be adding a set of stiffeners to the outers before installation. Something like this is what I'm thinking. Should add another 5lb....

http://www.greatlakeoffroad.com/images/D/12boltRB.jpg

The 8 bolt ones are a little lighter but I would NEVER run a set of 8 bolts with a fullsize truck and the 37" military Goodyears. Military specs show the 8 bolt rims only capable of handling a bias ply tire (the old 36" military Goodyears), the newer 12 bolt I have were designed for the newer radial tires (newer 37" military Goodyears.) The newest ones are the 24 bolt H1 beadlocks designed for the newest Goodyear Bajas, basically to prevent wheel damage from IEDs.

I see many guys runs the 8 bolts on the road with radial tires, but the stock bolts aren't designed for that kind of pressure and they will pop. And once they pop you have to notice quickly or you could lose them all very quickly. I know some guys that run Grade 8 bolts in them that are stronger, but it's still questionable in my mind.

[swirvin21]

Here's the new super BEEF 1/2" thick Long-Arm Dodge Off-Road brackets and hardware! You can see that it comes with necessary mounting hardware in Grade 8 flavor....and thumb-sized thickness!!!

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I'll be doing a long-arm conversion on my Black Ram, here's the starter pieces!

[myoung84]

Damn those are BEEFY!

[swirvin21]

I also finished installing my DOR steering brace on the Black Ram: http://www.dodgeoffroad.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1242

I also found myself some tow mirrors for my White Ram! Another Ram fan in the Tulsa area was kind enough to give me these mirrors after he sold his Ram and had no use for them. Always nice to make new friends! Thanks bud. :tu:

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I also started getting the new bumper modified for the front of the Ram....ran into a bit of a snag. The bumper mounts are about 1/4" too narrow and can't quite clear the frame rails.

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Cut a little off the front and will trim more off the bumper for under the headlights after I can get it on the truck.

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So would you guys cut off one of the brackets on the bumper and scoot it over, or try to stretch the bumper mounts out, or squeeze the frame rails of the truck together. Remember, we're talking about a 1/4"....not much. Super Easy doing this with a spare front frame jig! And yes, the body mounts are cut off the jig. Figure I might as well move those things into a good location while I'm at it!

[swirvin21]

I installed a Class V hitch I found on Craigslist! Great condition and added a good bit of strength.

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I managed to finally finish installing my exhaust on the truck. Threw some high temp primer and paint on a few places and installed stainless steel clamps so the system can be easily removed: 1 on each pipe forward of the cats, then 3 on the muffler (2 inlets, 1 outlet.)

You can see how I modified the stock muffler hangar with an old u-bolt cut in half to weld them together.

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Finished cat w/ air pump connections. Replaced hoes where necessary.

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And installed everything in the truck! Should be good as new. Just need to install the rebuilt valve body and I should be driving.
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[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

Holy hell batman. I don't even know where to start...what are the air pumps for on the cats?

[LowRam]

it was me who gave the mirror bro

[swirvin21]

Yeah man! Next time I bump into you I'll have to buy you a drink or two!! It's nice to know there are still guys out there who don't only care about money! Feel free to let me know if you ever need a hand and I'll bring some Coors Light!

The V10 runs an air pump that pumps oxygen into the catalytic converters through those lines. On a standard V8, the computer fluctuates the amount of fuel to allow the cats varying amounts of oxygen to properly breakdown the pollutants. That's why running too lean or rich can cause a cat to go bad and overheat or not break down pollutants. The V10 doesn't vary the fuel and instead pumps oxygen directly into the cats: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_air_injection

I'm hoping my back feels better and I can install the new valve body, but it's killing me and I don't think I'll be able to work under the truck! Maybe this weekend....

[swirvin21]

Finished installing the rebuilt transmission valve body and doing the GM solenoid conversion, then slapped on the Hughes extra deep pan and JB welded a magnet to the drain plug. Poured in about 12 quarts of fluid and drove around the block! Everything shifted, no mean scary lights on the dash or problems. Had a horrible smell from the paint I put on the exhaust, but that will pass. Tightened up the collector bolts and got rid of a few leaks.

Now I need to get the seat belts permanently wired up, install the tow mirrors, new Borgeson box and shaft, FastMan throttle body, bumpers, tow wiring, gooseneck, alignment, freon recharge, shocks, etc. After it's together and running on the road for a few weeks, I'll start working on getting the D80 rear end put back together and collect parts for the front hub conversion. At that point I should be done for awhile! <crossed fingers>

The exhaust sounds good! Deep rumble, but not very loud. Didn't notice any bad noises in the cab. I'll try to get a video up in the next few days!

[LowRam]

[QUOTE=swirvin21;18711] It's nice to know there are still guys out there who don't only care about money!QUOTE]

yea they werent doing me any good and my old ram was laid out so they werent going to ever be needed on there so i figure just give em to you so they could be put to use.
got my mustangs tranny leak fixed and did a shift kit and short trow shifter also. got it back last night and ive started doing more body mods on it.

[swirvin21]

Picked up my rock rings for the 24 bolts H1 beadlocks! They will look SWEET!!!!!

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I started cutting up the front bumper today, hoping to have something worthy of pics tomorrow. Otherwise I hope to at least have some beadlocks and basic maintenance completed in time for Wheelers For the Wounded this weekend in Disney, OK!

[swirvin21]

Been kicking my own butt modifying this front bumper to fit. Been 3 test fits so far, but need probably 1 or 2 more to get it permanently mounted. Then, after I finally get the front radiator support mounts moved I'll be able to finalize and reinforce everything for the long haul.

Here's the 1st test fit after a few pieces being cut to get out of the way.

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2nd test fit

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3rd test fit......getting closer

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This is where I left everything. Need to do some welding tomorrow and make a few more modifications to get it where I want. I had it higher originally and liked it more than I do now, but I think it was just a little too high for when I put a big boy winch in there. This is about as low as I want to go, but will add some small metal pieces to fill under the headlights. Right now my goal is to get it solidly mounted for WFTW this weekend....I'll make it pretty later!

[DoubleTakeDodge]

lookin good man!! I like how strong that fron end looks and it's clearance!

[swirvin21]

Also managed to install the Road Armor on the White Ram.....looks weird to me after having seen it on only lifted trucks, but I know it'll grow on me!

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[DoubleTakeDodge]

so is one of the trucks a daily driver and the other a toy? or both? lol

[swirvin21]

I've had the Black Ram since 2005, it was a dual-purpose rig for years, but my old job included a company car so I did some upgrades to make a more capable offroader. After I injured my back and lost that job, I looked around and picked up the White Ram for cheap. It had a blown head gasket and some other issues, so I started rebuilding it slowly at my house using as many craigslist parts as I could. I only recently got it driving, after I had to redo the valve body. It will be nice having a regular sized truck for driving around and will double as a tow rig since my wife is getting a yearling that I'll need a horse trailer for.

Thanks for the compliments! After I make a few more mods, I'm hoping it will look 10X better!

[ramthis9501]

Nice!

[Lt.Dan]

I want your bumper bad

[DoubleTakeDodge]

Gotcha! Both are lookin good man! Keep us informed!!

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

You are a busy man!

[swirvin21]

It's actually a Rough Country bumper for a 2008 Chevy 2500/3500 truck. I found it cheap on Craigslist and really liked how beefy the winch plate was, so I've been planning out how to mod it to fit ever since. Having the 2" body lift really gave me the room to move it up and will give me clearance for moving the body mounts. The radiator support body mounts are notorious for being too low and in the way when you go to larger tires, they also hit when you push the axle forward. I'll detail what I'm doing so other can follow.

For anyone wanting an inexpensive version of my Road Armor bumper, check out Dodge Offroad: http://www.dodgeoffroad.com/store.php

My buddy Danny runs it, a small shop in Arkansas that deals solely in Ram trucks and he sells a Road Armor knockoff called Road Rhino bumpers. http://www.dodgeoffroad.com/store_roadrhino.php

Great price for the product and it comes in a Weld It Yourself kit if you want to make something custom for yourself! You guys should check it out, there are a ton of parts that work on both lifted and lowered Rams. I help him with sales, so if you have a question or want to plan some upgrade feel free to PM me here or even come by and I'll walk you through everything!

[swirvin21]

I have the front bumper welded up and painted roughly, will do some small stuff over time to finalize it. A few more panels under the headlamps, maybe a few more brackets and such. If anyone has any ideas I'm open to hear them! Hear it is before I painted it up some...

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Here she is all painted up!! I'm very happy with it and look forward to playing with it more

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I also managed to move the evap charcoal cannister up a few inches. I couldn't get as much as I hoped, but the article on Pavementsucks is for a regular cab w/ 3" body lift, my quad cab w/ 2" body lift couldn't be moved forward due to an additional body mount in the way.

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Also got some new bling for the White ram! It's a gooseneck from Blue Ox. Haven't heard much about them, but the design is solid, weight rating is the same as everyone else, the ball is designed so it can be removed and locked without pulling a lever under the bed and the best part is it's designed to push the ball back about 4" farther than the others from B&W/etc so it's perfect for my short bed!!

http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu275/swirvin211/Camaro%20SS/Ram/Upgrades/IMG_3883_zps7726c977.jpg

They also had some great customer service! Which makes their product that much better!

[swirvin21]

And now for the BIG REVEAL!! I went ahead and threw on a set of 37" Bajas and 24 bolt beadlocks for "Wheelers For The Wounded" event tomorrow. They look awesome! I will weld on my rock rings and cut the runflats later, so I can't air down too much just yet. What do ya'll think? Looks murdered out in Black now!!!!


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This is with 2.5" spacers in the front. I will install dually hubs when I get a chance, just happy to finally see them on there!

[ramthis9501]

Looks like a zombie appocolypse truck! But seriously, its looking sick!

[Okiespaniels]

I remember crunching my evap system on a ledge in rural Phoenix almost a decade ago. If only ma Mopar woulda thought the mount design through just a bit better.

[swirvin21]

Thought you guys would like to see a few shots when I didn't have a trailer loaded and hooked up!

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[swirvin21]

Been a little slower lately on upgrading stuff....BUT I did manage to get the gooseneck installed! A shout-out to the wonderful people at BLUE OX for introducing me to their product. http://www.etrailer.com/Gooseneck/Blue-Ox/DH1104.html
I had never even heard of them and I'm shocked at how great it is!!! Fits the short bed PERFECT and I don't have to reach under the nasty bed to pull the ball- just climb in the bed and flip it....a TRUE 1 PERSON JOB!!!!

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Also wanted to show off how low-profile my low profile rubber runflats are! You don't have to pull them or cut them to drive on the street....though it will save weight to cut them down, it will take a ton of flex to have any contact occur!!!

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You can see how they only go a few inches past the bead, not even to the name plate on the Bajas....plenty of room to air down to 5-10psi in my mind. However, they are a bit heavy, so I'm working on finding someone with a large lathe who can turn them down and make them easier to remove/install.

Will be installing bumper this weekend on the White and getting a few more things ready for my 2K trip to Chicago and Cleveland...talk about a test drive!

[swirvin21]

After a long 4 day road trip I'm back home! It was great to meet Danny @ DOR finally, I recommend anyone to try and sneak by if you are in the area.

So basically I made a 2,000 mile trip in the White Ram and it did perfectly until the last 500 miles. Seems there is a power steering leak at the box somewhere and I had a little trans fluid puke out around the converter, but not enough to lower the level to "fill." I'm fairly certain dropping in the new Borgeson box with fix the steering, but not sure about what could cause the torque converter to spit up like that on the way home. Ideas?

Good news is I came back with some goodies and am trying to figure out how or if I can make them fit. I am now the proud owner of a Ford NP205 already converted to twin stick with cable shifters and a 2.7:1 Klune-V unit! Should make a great doubler unit.

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And a lovely set of 46" Goodyears on Stazworks 20x14 double beadlocks that I can hopefully make fit!

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Had to do the poser photo!! LOL

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You think someone could move this to the build thread section??

[fastnnuffrt]

I could tuck those on the r/t!!

[swirvin21]

Come on over! I'd love to see it. Be like the old school funny car!

http://www.draglist.com/artman2/uploads/1/d7_dodge_fever_7.jpg

[swirvin21]

Ok...I managed to get enough trimmed off the rear bed to get this bumper temporarily installed and now I don't like it! Gggrrrr. Need suggestions on how to mod it. Thinking about either doing some cuts and bending the ends flat and doing some trimming up at the corners, also considering just making some sort of modular center unit and then adding corner protection later on. I'm installing it like this for a future winch I would like to install in between the rails. Already have some ideas on that and tucking in a rear trailer hitch crossmember for misc stuff....

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So whip out your paint or image program and make that stuff look good....I can trim a little more from the rear bed body panel and from under the tail lamps, but not much as I'd like to keep some meat under the lamps and in the rear body panel for strength. I will also be moving it up slightly and trimming some fat on it to fit better under the bed.

[swirvin21]

Not much done, been selling the last of my 37" military tires, only have 2 sets left and I'm DONE.....made a little $$$ to spend on Ram and TJ.

Will have the new bumper soon, decided to cut it down narrow and then in 1/2 horizontally to make it shorter, then weld it back up and slap it on. Will be making ALOT more progress now that I have a new welder at home and not messing with tires as much.

Plans right now are:
-install DIY4X shackle flip
-shift bed forward 1.5" and box frame back to bed to stop bed-cab flex
-finish rear bumper
-prep doubler for install, then start fabbing new crossmember and skids
-strip Dana 80 of all brackets, paint & prep for rebuild
-install 5.13s, Detroit and new seals/bearings and drop in Ram
-strip SuperDuty F450 D60 for swap into Ram
-pull and swap axles
-new driveshafts
-new front 5 link and long arms
-Coil-overs in the front!!!
-new brake lines

Once I have it driveable in 2WD I'll focus on getting the Ram axles under the TJ and then start saving up to do a JANA 76 install in the front w/ Dana 70 HP 5.13s and whatever locker I decide....ARB, Detroit

That's my long-ass plan as of right now. Doubt any of it will go according to plan, as usual. This year will be spent building Ram and TJ, prep for moving and selling house...hopefully a little wheeling sprinkled in!

[swirvin21]

So it's been too long since I've updated this...

White Ram is currently getting a Borgeson box, steering shaft & DOR brace installed as it started puking fluid pretty regular and I found a BIG puddle after a trip last week. Been slow as I had to take a break and pick up a new load I got off the government! So here are going to be the new seats for both my TJ project and the Ram...considering trying to fit 1 or 2 in the back seat as well, but not important right now.

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They are MasterCraft Defense suspension seats complete with sliders and "H" harnesses. These things are awesome! They are slightly larger than a standard width seat to accommodate a typical military profile complete w/ flak and LBV, so they are slightly wider and taller. Feel like they may have a little extra cushion as well...which I can't complain about.

I have 10 extra seats available if someone is interested, but I'm giving priority to former or current military. I have decided that I am going to be building the Black Ram as a military tribute truck and will be trying to incorporate as many military vehicle parts into the build as a way to advertise and raise funds for Wounded Warrior Project. I hope to travel some and work with them to do fundraisers in the future. As such, the truck has finally been named:
"Hard Corps." If any of you run across any military memorabilia that you think will help please let me know.

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

Damn man, I love the idea for Hard Corps.

[myoung84]

X2! Can't wait to see how it turns out.

[swirvin21]

Been too long since I've updated this thread. I actually have managed to get a few things done, but just haven't updated it. I'll try to do that over the next few days.

The biggest thing has been a Borgeson box conversion on the White Ram. Ordered it from DOR, along with a Borgeson shaft since I have enjoyed the Borg shaft on the Black Ram fro years! Hardest part was getting the pitman off, ended up breaking 2 pullers, renting one that failed to get it off and just taking the whole unit out and having a local shop press it off for $20....grrrr! I need a press at the new house!

I highly recommend that you spray a coat of clear on the Borgeson shaft before install as my old one looks bad after a few years, even though it's fine I'm sure. I just coated all the surfaces and then made sure everything moved freely before install.

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I made sure the box was centered before install and had the wheel strapped in place. I ended up moving the shaft slightly on the gear input to recenter without taking in much on the drag link. The box is wider than the Saginaw, so you have to take in the drag link about 3/4" if I remember correctly. I had the front on jacks and actually left the drag link as long as possible for better turning radius and moved the shaft to center it on the box.

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After driving it for the last few weeks, it has really improved steering!! Well worth the cost and effort, plus the puddle is gone now from my steering box! Here are some pics along with the new DOR steering brace. Shouldn't have to worry about anything kicking up on the road and hitting the box EVER again...

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Very happy! Plenty beefy!!!

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[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

Love your builds since they are not typical at all. Thanks for the update.

[Okiespaniels]

That's some serious cash well spent on those mods. You should have an almost bullet proof steering setup now.
DOR is baddass stuff.

[swirvin21]

Thanks guys! Plan is to start putting together things for my 4.10 axle swap on the White Ram. I'll be putting in a Posi-Lok CAD engagement and doing another Ford hub conversion, then have to figure out steering. Since I'll be using Ford knuckles, I'll have dual front piston calipers which should be awesome towing a trailer! The 3.54s get good mileage, but unless I'm going 80, I can't get the RPMs to tow anything of reasonable size. If anyone needs 3.54s for their diesel, I'll let the pair go cheap.

On the Black Ram, I just came back from Big Meats Run in Disney this weekend. Got to do a little wheeling and will post up a few pics later on. Am working on doing the F450 front axle swap, D80 rear swap and completely redoing the front suspension with coil-overs and stretching it forward about 4-6".

Now that I have my welder setup, I'm hoping to start making some progress. I also have a Jeep TJ in the garage. Plan is to swap the current Black ram axles into it....of course I think my plate may be too full to get it done by end of summer!

[DoubleTakeDodge]

Wow! Sound like alot of work but definitely interesting builds!

[swirvin21]

Yeah.....I think I'm just a touch over my head, but it's a challenge to dig yourself out which I enjoy! I'll post up some more pics and updates here soon. Including me trying to get some of those suspension seats into the Ram!!!

[myoung84]

That's a nice upgrade!

[swirvin21]

Some pics of the Ram at Big Meats Run 2013. Nothing special, just some shots near the Rock Garden on my out.

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[Matt]

good looking rig man

[swirvin21]

Thanks man!

Here is the start of my front axle swap in the Black Ram. This is a Dana 60 out of a 2004 F450, has 4.88s stock, 35 spline inners, 30 spline outers, is wider than a F350 so I actually have room on the driver side for brackets.

Plan is to use a pair of SOLID AXLE BJ knuckles with high steer arms, with dual piston Ford calipers, chevy spindles, DRW hubs, 35 spline chromo outers, Artec 80's style Ford truss, Artec track bar mount and coil-over brackets, Ballistic radius arm brackets, and installing it stretched forward 4-6".

Here is the F450 D60 with the Artec truss in the first stage of trimming to fit. No one makes a truss for it, so I have to trim to fit and tie in the radius arm mounts. It's sitting high now, so will be closer to axle when done.

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I also am getting closer to finishing the rear bumper. I basically cut out some of the middle and will finish welding it back together. This will eventually be tied into the bedside tube fenders after the bed get dovetailed, so that's why it will be a little narrow for now.

http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu275/swirvin211/Camaro%20SS/Ram/Upgrades/009_zpsa2728ec8.jpg
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Hopefully I will have it together and on the truck soon. Need to finish the license plate lights and wanting to weld in some trailer hitches between the rear rails as a good rear frame cross support for when I remove the old spare tire support and strengthen where the shackle flip brackets will be mounted.

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

I love the look of a lifted second gen on those military wheels and tires.

[swirvin21]

Thanks for the props!!! Be going out to the Tuesday night show at the 71st Fuddruckers here soon I hope! Maybe see you guys there, will bring some suspension seats to try and sell as well.


Right now I'm trying to plan out my axle swaps as I have 3 of them planned!

1) Rebuild rear SRW D80 for white Ram: simple rebuild of new bearings/seals and gives stronger axle w/ 4.10s
Also have a matching front D60 for it that looks good enough on the inside to avoid a rebuild, especially since I will be putting together a hub conversion for it that will eliminate R&P turning in 2wd!

-Stock 1995 Ram 3500 D60 front: remove knuckles out + stubs, replace knuckles/spindles/hubs with set from 1996 F350 to give rebuildable and serviceable bearings w/ DUAL PISTON CALIPERS!!!! F-yeah! Also including a Posi-Lok CAD connect and seal replacement. Simple cleanup and paint.

Trying to decide whether to build custom control arms with adjustable ends or swap in the DT ProFab .5"+ control arms currently in the Black Ram....not sure yet. Also trying to decide whether to get a shackle flip in the rear and remove the blocks to reduce axle wrap and improve ride. Will remove the overload and install a set of mini-packs along with air bags. Need to get custom shackle flip brackets with less lift to do this, so that is the hold up there!

2) Black Ram axle swap: 2004 F450 HP D60 front- needs front coil-over from DOR, coil-over hoops, custom 4 link w/ panhard using Artec truss, Ballistic brackets and some modifications, Ford F450 steering box or flipped pitman arm stock box, Solid Axle knuckles, Chevy DRW hubs and spindles, 35 spline chromo outers and lock-outs. Deciding between Stage 8 X-locks or Jana bearing spacers. Using Johnny Joints on both ends of control arms with DOR long arm brackets on the frame in front. Steering box will be ported for hydro-assist while being rebuilt/flipped, but will likley be plugged until I can afford that setup.

-Rear Dana 80 swap is up in the air. Likely will drop a 4.10 stock LS Dana 80 I have to keep it rolling/driving until I figure out the rear build. Will be running SkyJacker 2" rear leafs and DIY4X shackle flip brackets. Since the front has 4.88s and I can't afford to do the Jana 76 kit w/ Dana 70 5.13s up front right now, I'm planning out the rear. Figure it's best to spend the money on getting the suspensions setup and driving before dropping major $$ on rear lockers/chromos, etc etc.

3) 1999 Jeep TJ swap: taking built axles out of the Black Ram and dropping them into the Jeep using Artec rear 4 link brackets (triangulated uppers, slight out on lowers), Artec truss on rear D60 using Artec TJ conversion buckets and Artec D60 modular truss, combination of Johnny joints and Ballistic bushings. Will be doing a 3 link in the front using a custom truss of some sort and Ballistic brackets. Will keep coil springs front and rear for now and try to accommodate a stretch, but need a stretch tank in rear. Plan is to swap in a Dodge Ram steering box with flipped pitman and ported for hydro-assist to get proper Ackerman angles with D60. I also don't like the tilt brackets for the stock boxes...

[Matt]

man i wish i could do half that .. lol hell i'd be happy if i could change my gearing in my tank lol good luck buddy can't wait to see it all done

[swirvin21]

Ended up selling the set of 24 bolts and Bajas to a fellow jarhead in CA, so I had an excuse to see if I could stuff in the 46s.... I actually got the front onto the studs barely. Looks like I'll need about 6" - 12" stretch to adequately clear without lifting too high.

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The rear I couldn't even fit into the wheelwell, but I had plans to cut a ton of this out anyways.

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I took a set of MT/Rs and slapped them on a set of old school aluminum 5 spokes with 5" of backspacing. Figure these would make for a great set of driver tires that I will either run on the Ram or Jeep.

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I will not be changing out the rear axle in the Ram for a while, as I found a cheap D35 for the TJ for $100 that I can use to roll it around on. This way I can focus my dwindling time and funds on doing the front axle swaps.

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

Those tires are HUGE! I can't believe you could even get it to mount on the front.

[swirvin21]

I probably could've put the lug nuts on and had it mounted on the truck if I had strectched out the suspension, but didn't want to damage anything or get something stuck. The tires are Goodyear MVTs from the military, about 46" tall. They are bigger than what I had planned on going with originally, but I got them for a killer deal and really think it would work well. Who knows though, I may change my mind and go for something closer to a 42" if I stumble across something.

[swirvin21]

Thought I'd share my other project while I was at it. Might give you guys more of an idea why the Ram project seems to be moving slow.

Finally had a nice enough day to pull the Jeep out of the garage and actually CLEAN her! I shoveled...yes, shoveled out at least 30 lbs of dirt, rock, sand, pieces of wood and random pieces. I hosed out the frame rails and the fuel tank skid for probably 1/2 the time alone. But it's done now and she looks great! I went ahead and cleaned up a few spots where there was a little surface rust and one almost bad spot in the passenger floor pan, but everywhere else is pretty clean.

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I've finally figured out most of the plan on body upgrades:
-Poison Spyder TJ DeFender™ XC (High-Line) - 3" Tapered Flares (Steel)
http://shop.poisonspyder.com/TJ-DeFender-XC-3-Tapered-Flares-Steel-p/14-02-093.htm
-TNT HyLine "Zyros" for TJ
http://www.tntcustoms.com/jeep_wrangler_TJ/Hyline_zyros_corner_armor.aspx
-TJ Boatsides from THE ONE FABRICATION
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/body-armor/1107939-tj-boatside-rocker-kit.html

Haven't decided 100% on the rear fuel tank. Considering the Genright, but also found this PureJeep extended stretch tank that is a little cheaper:
http://shop.savvyoffroad.com/product.sc?productId=101&categoryId=4

The next thing would be a good cage. There are a ton of options here, but I'm very interested in these TMR Cage Pillars as they lower the windshield cross bar farther than the others I've looked at.
http://www.tmrcustoms.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=489

That's pretty much where I stand right now. A few other small things like rear coil locating buckets from either Genright or Rokmen are on my list as well. That's pretty much it for now. Small steps, but big plans as usual....

[swirvin21]

Still having issues with the rear track bar, looks like the rear springs I have are too tall for a stock rear bar. I have a spare stock one, going to cut in half at the straight area and sleeve it, then weld back together while on the Jeep to make sure it's at the right length. Not worried about adjustable, just considering making it drivable if I find a few cheap brake parts.

Need front brakes to make it safe. Missing front rotors and calipers, no brake lines either. Probably needs work done in regards to MC and lines if they were left open and empty for long. Also need another u-joint u-bolt to attach the driveshaft to the rear axle. Running in 4wd drive now, which is good to know that it works.

Bought a Smittybilt cab cover w/ door flap so I could park it outside. Had a good deal at 4WP and with a warranty came out under $100, if it ever leaks I'll just bring it back and exchange for another. :headbang:

Need to find some better shoes, these are cracked and look like they couldn't handle anything over 5mph.

Finally I'm going to be ordering a set of boatsides so I can cut off the bad spots in these rockers, build a simple floor cage to mount my suspension seats and have the base for a full cage later.

Here are the few pics I have taken...will get more when I have more to show for it!

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[swirvin21]

Figure while I'm at it I'll update a little on the Rams as well. Haven't done much, but have gotten a few important things done I'm happy to say. I managed to get the transmission leak FIXED!!!

It turned out to be 2 leaks actually: 1 at the torque converter seal and bushing as predicted, which required the replacement of the torque converter as well as the seal and bushing. Picked it up from the shop only to find things still leaking...so I took it back on Memorial Day week and left it for awhile to let them have some time to find where. Turns out that the seal at the shifter was leaking and therefore it only leaked when it sat. They took care of that and so far I have NO PROBLEMS!!! They even drilled out the check ball in the pressure line as I had talked about. Under a grand...can't share the exact price, but I can pass along the shop info to anyone interested.

So now that the trans is fixed, I'll have to fix the A/C, then swap in the new axles and finish out the suspension conversions. Hopefully that will make me a good, comfortable tow rig out of the White Ram. Went with Rancho 9000s for now just so I can adjust the valving between heavy loads and play with what feels best. Also put in the order for the Daystar air bag bellows, not sure when those will get here though...

Black Ram....dam, not much to share I'm afraid. Hardly had time to touch her. Need to do some basic maintenance: pack front bearings, change out diff fluids, change out brake lines for longer ones, go ahead and lengthen/check vents and other random small stuff.

In terms of actual modifications, I'm going to go ahead and install the frame side long arm brackets either in the designed location or slightly forward in the position I plan on running them for the swap. I need to do measurements and see how it will work first, but my thought was to either install in the forward position and just extend the links later or install in the rear position thinking the links will remain the same length. Probably would be better to install in the front position so I can tailor the lengths with the 4 link calculator. Plus... I can use the brackets to build my rocker sliders and tie them into the frame better and stronger. Which is probably the better reason.

So unfortunately that's all there is on the Dodge front...little or no progress

[swirvin21]

Well guys....everything changed today! I went out and bought a 2003 Dodge Ram 3500 V10 DRW Crew Cab Long Bed truck. Got a KILLER deal on her and based on what I've read and what DJ told me, it's pretty dang rare. Plenty of 2003 Ram 2500 V10s, but very few 3500s. This is the only year of the V10, so I jumped on it.

Gonna be a very interesting change in my builds now....something's got to go, can't have 3 Dodge Ram pickups in the driveway. I can justify 2, but not 3! Plus I need to sell something to come up with some extra cash to fix up the new Ram. So, enough chit chat...here she is!!

'03 Dodge Ram 3500 SLT V10 DRW Crew Cab Long Bed 4x4 201K 3.73 gears NP271 AAM 11.5 w/ rear disc

Here's how she looked when I first picked her up...ugly chrome wheel trim, side mirror chrome covers and chrome door moldings. Gone the second I got home!

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Already looks better doesn't she!!!

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So this opens a whole new can of worms...different parts, different designs, different ideas. Good thing DOR has me covered on the 3rd gens as well!

[(S.M.R) 101]

Awesome find!

[swirvin21]

got it cheap tooo!!! Hehehehe.... you guys will have to school me on some 3rd gen knowledge!

[myoung84]

Pretty sweet find! What are your plans?

[DoubleTakeDodge]

Very cool! Can't wait to see what it turns into!

[swirvin21]

Well, I guess I can announce that we are pregnant now that we're into the 2nd trimester! So alot of buying this truck was to get the extra room in the back from the crew cab. The original plan for the White Ram was for it to be a good DD, farm truck and short-term heavy hauler for taking our horses to shows, etc. Down the road we hope to get a real hauler like a Freightliner or something in the 450, 550+ area, as I'm sure my wife plans on getting more horses and a bigger trailer! LOL

The plan right now is to find a flat bed, truck bed or something to throw on the back cheap so I can drive it more. I'm not a big fan of having everything open and uncovered on the road and only some magnetic trailer lights on the back! My wife really wants a Western Hauler style flat bed, but they are expensive and hard to find. I'm hoping she let's me use the money to buy a tube bender and some other tools for me to be able to build my own this fall!

For right now, a cheap flat bed, replacing the rear disc pads and fixing the transmission, which seems to either have a 2nd gear issue or just needs the bands adjusted and maybe a solenoid replaced. There are a number of other things that the truck needs replaced, like the hood struts, the dash cap is badly cracked and some basic maintence, but that's why I got it sooo cheap!

I would guess that the 47RE transmission on this would be the same as my '98 aside from a few sensors. Depending on what happens when I open her up, I may consider parting out the White Ram early and moving some stuff around.

I'm going to have to re-evaluate some of my build plans as I was just about to pull the trigger on rebuilding a D80 and D60 for the White Ram, as well as doing a hub conversion, suspension upgrade and a number of other things. Have a brand new set of Rancho RS9000s that are in the garage for a 2" lift on a 2nd Gen....think they would work on the 3rd gen? Bunch of parts like that. Probably have a hub conversion kit for sale here soon....complete Ford conversion w/ knuckles, hubs, stubs, spindles and everything to get dual piston calipers and locking hubs on a 2nd gen. Also just recently traded for a set of Moto Metal 20x10 black 951s that we going on the White, but won't work on the Red unless I delete DRW for a bit....anyone need 20s??

If anyone knows of a cheap flat bed, hit me up! Also will have some pretty kick ass parts coming up: the 20" Moto Metals (5 of them), Ford conversion kit, a set of 275/65R20 Goodyear E load tires (used, 50%ish) and a few others I'll put together.

Love to hear ideas on the best places to spend money on these! Wonder if my 2nd gen K&N setup will work on her???

[myoung84]

Congrats on the baby! I've got a little girl that due in just a couple of weeks!

[swirvin21]

Congrats! We are about a month away from finding out if it's a boy or girl. My wife is already saying that this is our last, even though it's our first! LOL. We'll see, she may be right, but I keep telling her she may end up enjoying being pregnant.

I just found a line on a cheap OEM dually bed w/ lights and tailgate. Wrong color though. Anyone have an idea on how to make a white bed into a red one....for cheap?

[swirvin21]

Haven't had time to post much....between packing, cleaning, preparing for some home DIY projects, getting ready to put the house up for sale and taking care of a pregnant wife I have hardly touched the new truck!

I did manage to get a bed, rear bumper, hitch and lights. Made a quick trade thinking I might have a matching or close to matching bed, but unfortunately the PRV paint code was only available on 02 and 03 models and this one is obviously different. I'd be very interested in hearing some ideas on how to fix it and will post pics later this weekend, but the bed is a dark red and is obviously lighter and without the purple you see in the cab.

I'm battling a hell of a wiring issue: hooked up some cheap tow lights to get to the bed (worked fine on the way there), had to cut some flat bed wiring to plug in stock tails but nothing worked after installing bed, tried to use the tow lights and they wouldn't work either. The tow lights worked with the headlights and interior dash lights off....but nothing worked with the headlights on!!! So I drove home with every truck, big rig and car honking at me to let me know my tails were out....yeah, I KNOW! Somehow on the way home one of my tow lamps fell off the truck and broke, suddenly my remaining tow lamp worked with headlamps on...F'N weird! Played with wiring a bit, removed all the clip on jumpers, taped and cleaned things up and am waiting on cleaning up the terminals and cleaning the water and dirt out of the tails before testing things out.

I'd be very interested in hearing opinions on lighting options for the 3rd gens! Headlights and tail lamps are dull and scuffed badly, might as well replace unless someone has a suggestion! Even the clearance lights look like they have some weird glue looking stuff on them.

Still need to do some cleaning, but I'd appreciate any opinions on what I should or can do on the 3rd gen Rams! Reply with your ideas please...


Not sure what I'm going to do with the 2 other Rams I have. Might sell the White, maybe the Black, maybe part one or the other out??? No clue....not even thinking that far ahead really. No time to swap parts around with everything else, so I'm going to park one out of the way and focus on other things. Pick up on the decision later on!

I do have a D60 front 4.10 and D80 4.10 LS SRW rear that I need to sell from a 2nd Gen Ram. Were going to rebuild for the White Ram. Can even do a complete Ford hub conversion with dual piston calipers and new BJs, etc if someone is interested. Will sell the hub conversion separate as well...hard to find the good bolt-on caliper style Ford knuckles I have!!!

[swirvin21]

Managed to do some cleanup, removed more chrome junk and think I have most of the gremlins out of the tail light wiring. Going to try and go to the local car wash soon to spray off the red dirt underneath so I can see and finish installing all of the bed bolts.

The color wasn't what it looked like in the craigslist ad, but still managed to get a good deal out of it all. My paint code PRV was only available in 02-03, so the likelihood of finding a match was slip to none to begin with.

If any of you have photoshop skills, please feel free to try and come up with a good looking transition that will help me avoid painting the entire bed, cab or whole truck!

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[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

I have a pretty good idea for the transition. It might still be cheaper to paint the bed, but we will see.

[swirvin21]

be interested in seeing your idea...although cheap is my priority right now. Thinking of bedlining inside the bed and over the rails then trying something to tie the colors together or just paint the bed to match the cab.

[Randall488]

honestly for the price of the half gallon it will take to color match the bed you can get a gallon of black and do the whole truck.

[Matt]

honestly for the price of the half gallon it will take to color match the bed you can get a gallon of black and do the whole truck.

paint is not that easy ... you'd also have to jam 4 doors and engine bay as well for it to look right plus black obviously is the hardest color to prep and paint ... it's not as simple as buying a gallon of paint and walla you have a black truck it's alot easier to screw up a paintjob then make it look good ... if it was me i would try to find another bed or paint it to match

[Randall488]

you dont have to explain to me how hard it is, ive worked in a body shop since i was 15. i've prepped and painted trucks. you'd be amazed how expensive red is. he's already got the bed why hunt for another one just because its a shade off?

[Matt]

bc selling a bed and buying a new one that's the right color is quite a bit cheaper than painting and blending his current bed and much easier .. that is if he can track one down ...

[Randall488]

thats a big if considering this is a one year only color. he's been pulling the chrome trim off of this truck maybe a it would wear a flat black well. its an option, he did say he was open to options and opinions

[Matt]

without some sort of design breaking up the 2 colors it doesn't matter what color you paint the bed it won't look good and if you're going to paint it flat black why not just paint it to match.. since you do work in a body shop you know how hard a matte finish is to get perfect since you can't sand and buff out imperfections

[myoung84]

I'd have the bed painted to match and the cab blended in. That's a good looking color.

[DoubleTakeDodge]

I'd have the bed painted to match and the cab blended in. That's a good looking color.

I agree with this. I like that color. It's not really super common and looks nice.

[swirvin21]

my wife really wants me to go white....like the entire truck which I feel is a little bland. I tried countering with a 2 tone kindof thing with a dark sand lower and maybe a stripe or block of the same color on the hood (or as a racing type stripe) to break up glare on a white hood. Not sure why she wants white soo bad.

I do know that I want to go with a tan/sand interior or something non-black/gray. Not sure why it's a big deal right now, I know it looks a little ghetto with the 2 color setup, but she HATES it! I'd rather spend some coin on the trans, a goose, some steering upgrades, etc rather than paint...hence my looking for a simple, cheap way to do a transition. Maybe a simple small wrap??? Need something to appease her! LOL

Oh by the way....we have a little girl due in Dec, hence my sudden jump for a crew cab. Looking forward to it, already cleaning my shotgun!! LOL

[Randall488]

congrats on the baby Kyle, i think the white gold 2 tone would look real good.

[swirvin21]

Okay, so after being lazy and not posting these up and being out of town without internet, here's the flatbed! If any of you guys can help me find some quality LED lamps for this that won't eat up all of my money I'd be very appreciative! I also need some help figuring out exactly what resistors or any other parts I may need to add to convert over to LEDs on my '03. Heard a number of people say it's a little bit of work since the lighting setup is all weird computerized and crap...

Anyways..here's the peep show! Gonna start working on the paint job here soon as I'm getting hammered by my wife on this thing looking like the "Joker Mobile" with the almost purple and green :shaking:

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Have 4 2.5" stop/turn/tail lamps at the bottom rear, 8 smaller 1" or 1.5" marker lamps (3 in rear, 4 on each side) and 4 2.5" white reverse/cargo lamps on the top headache rack.

Need to figure out how to do the gas filler as well....suggestions are appreciated!
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Unfortunately, the one thing I'm not sure about is how the bed is mounted to the truck. The previous owner had it setup as a bolt-on flat-bed with a crappy weld on a nut and square steel over each bed mount.... I don't know that it is capable of handling a large weight on a gooseneck with this setup, just not looking all too safe in my mind!

Here are just a few pics showing how BAD this is setup!! :pissed: :roflmao: :jerkit:


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[Randall488]

it looks like a really bad lift attempt...

[swirvin21]

The flat bed is located in the correct position for the truck at least, just need to redo the brackets to make it strong enough to haul on the goose. Thinking of going to a local flat bed dealer and ask what they would charge to fix it. I have some ideas myself, just not sure I have the time to do them here right now...

[ramthis9501]

Gonna be cool to see what you got in store!

[swirvin21]

Well....unfortunately my good luck finally ran out and some punk kid decided my truck was too nice! Pretty bad situation; kid made an illegal u-turn, everyone steps on the brakes, trailer jack-knifed after someone hit it from behind and took off, I hit the Ford in front, then skidded to a stop on the shoulder after sliding through the right lane.... Fortunately there were no injuries. Unfortunately the White Ram had no collision coverage so I am fighting insurance tooth and nail!

So here's the damage, nothing super serious, but biggest complaints are flat spots on tires, front bumper/headlamp/fender and something wrong on the driver side front axle...ugh! Hoping just a warped rotor from the heat of locking everything up.

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[myoung84]

I hate people sometimes. Looks like that beefy bumper saved you from a lot more damage. Good luck with your insurance...

[0212353]

damnit, that freakin' sucks man! sounds like that kid needs to have taken a header off your bumper....

[swirvin21]

Yeah...it did. I've met the owner of Road Armor, Mark, a few times and try to use products from guys that I have met personally. I went ahead and posted up how well it protected me on his Facebook page, so hopefully that helps him sell a few more.

My one concern is still the front axle and frame horn. The left front tire has a BAD flat spot and I'm thinking the rotor warped enough to add some resistance..which is scary to think of what could be wrong with the unit bearing. But it vibrated bad and I could only get it up to 55mph on the way home. Steering was obviously off as well...

If anyone has some E rated tires for 17" wheels, I may be needing some soon!!!

Hoping State Farm accepts liability, but if not, my insurance better believe me when I say someone hit my trailer and ran away.... An empty trailer doesn't just jack-knife when you lock the brakes!!!

[BMRbrnSNRbrd]

I'm really sorry to see this.